Sisters In Sobriety with Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen

In this episode, Sonia sits down with Richard Taite to talk about addiction, trauma, treatment, emotional sobriety, self-love, and what it really takes to build a life that feels worth staying present for. They explore Richard’s decades of experience as an addiction treatment entrepreneur, recovery advocate, founder of Cliffside Malibu and Carrera Treatment, and host of the mental health podcast We’re Out of Time. Richard also opens up about his own history with addiction, childhood trauma, homelessness, long-term recovery, and his controversial view that some people can transcend addiction after doing deep, sustained work.

The conversation moves through some big questions: Is addiction always a lifelong identity? What does it mean to truly recover versus simply stop using? How does childhood trauma become the emotional engine behind substance use disorder? Sonia and Richard also discuss AA, therapy, treatment centers, the fentanyl crisis, emotional sobriety, reparenting, and why “getting sober” is only one part of the work. Richard challenges familiar recovery language while still crediting AA as a foundation in his own life, making space for a more nuanced conversation about addiction recovery, identity, and healing.

Richard explains why therapy has been central to his recovery, how shame forms in childhood, and why so many people carry a “bad kid” narrative into adulthood. He shares his belief that self-care can become self-esteem, and self-esteem can become self-love—especially when recovery expands beyond abstinence into purpose, parenting, relationships, physical health, and joy. The episode also looks at what effective addiction treatment should include today, why therapeutic fit matters, and how families may need to think differently about drugs, alcohol, opioids, and fentanyl in the current recovery landscape.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Highlights

[00:01:00] Richard corrects the record about his sobriety and explains why he no longer identifies as sober.

[00:02:00] Richard describes what he means by “transcending addiction.”

[00:03:00] He shares the Michelin-star wine-pairing moment that showed him his relationship with alcohol had changed.

[00:04:00] Sonia asks whether his shift happened suddenly or slowly over time.

[00:05:00] Richard explains why thriving matters after getting sober.

[00:07:00] Sonia asks how his current relationship with alcohol differs from active addiction.

[00:08:00] Richard opens up about becoming a father and losing the fantasy of eventually getting loaded again.

[00:10:00] Sonia asks whether fatherhood pushed him into deeper emotional sobriety work.

[00:11:00] Richard talks about being in therapy for much of his recovery.

[00:12:00] Richard shares the therapy moment that helped him understand he was never “a bad kid.”

[00:14:00] He explains how childhood shame can keep running the adult life.

[00:16:00] Sonia and Richard discuss childhood trauma as a root driver of addiction.

[00:18:00] Richard challenges the idea that one first drink automatically explains addiction.

[00:19:00] He talks about AA as a foundation while also questioning rigid recovery identities.

[00:21:00] Richard explains why he sees AA as support, not treatment.

[00:23:00] He connects self-care, self-esteem, and self-love.

[00:27:00] Richard explains why treatment should feel like care, not punishment.

[00:32:00] Sonia asks how fentanyl changed the addiction treatment landscape.

[00:34:00] Richard shares the overdose death that brought him back into treatment work.

[00:40:00] Richard describes how he talks to his son about pills, powders, fentanyl, and peer pressure.

[00:45:00] Sonia asks what families should look for in a recovery center today.

[00:50:00] Richard closes with a message of hope for anyone afraid to ask for help.

Richard's Links

https://www.instagram.com/richardtaiteofficial/

https://carraratreatment.com/author/richard/ 

SIS Links

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Creativity isn’t just a hobby—it can be a sobriety tool, a self-care practice, and a way back to the parts of ourselves we forgot. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen explore how play, journaling, memory keeping, and hands-on creativity can help women rebuild identity and joy after alcohol. Sonia is joined by Amy Tangerine, a designer, author, creative director, memory keeper, and founder of a colorful creative brand that has inspired hundreds of thousands of people to reconnect with imagination, craft, and permission to play.

The conversation opens up the question of what happens when drinking used to be the “play hard” part of life—and what it means to redefine fun in sobriety. Sonia and Amy talk about childhood creativity, cozy hobbies, scrapbooking, junk journaling, reading, Legos, collecting, and why many adults dismiss the very activities that once made them feel alive. They also explore how high-achieving women can struggle to do something without measuring it, monetizing it, or turning it into another task.

Amy shares how creative flow can become a grounding practice, especially for people who feel anxious, overworked, disconnected, or unsure of who they are without alcohol. The episode covers memory keeping, analog journaling, vision boards, tactile creativity, pen-to-paper reflection, creative self-care, inner child work, and the difference between creating for an outcome versus creating for the process. Amy also talks about “taking your rage out on the page,” using journaling to process emotions, and building small systems that make creativity possible in 10- to 15-minute pockets.

In the personal story segment, Amy opens up about being raised by immigrant parents, her early love of stickers, crayons, journals, and magazines, her transition from fashion into scrapbooking, and the burnout that pushed her to rethink success. She also shares the deeply personal role vision boards played during her miscarriages, how creativity helped her imagine and accept a different version of family, and how manifesting, aligned action, and self-belief shaped her life.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Highlights

00:00 Welcome to Sisters in Sobriety with Amy Tangerine 01:00 Amy’s earliest creative sparks: crayons, stickers, journals, and crafts 02:00 From fashion design to scrapbooking and memory keeping 03:00 The Hello Kitty journal that started Amy’s diary practice 04:00 Why Amy blended memoir and guidance in Craft a Life You Love 05:00 Why hobbies matter more than people think 06:00 Taking 15 minutes for creativity without explaining it to anyone 07:00 Amy’s immigrant parents and the freedom to follow what made her happy 09:00 Creativity as a way to design a more intentional life 10:00 Creative flow, harmony, and coming back to yourself 11:00 Collage as comfort during family stress and grief 13:00 Redefining play when drinking used to be the recreational hobby 14:00 Returning to the activities that brought joy in childhood 15:00 Sonia on rediscovering reading in sobriety 16:00 Legos, collecting, and childhood hobbies as adult comfort 18:00 Junk journaling and the return to analog creativity 20:00 What happens emotionally when people enter a playful state 21:00 Giving yourself permission to create in small pockets of time 23:00 Letting go of metrics, productivity, and the pressure of an end product 25:00 Pen-to-paper journaling versus digital memory keeping 27:00 Balancing AI tools, metrics, and the need for handwriting 30:00 What memory keeping really means 31:00 “Take your rage out on the page” as emotional release 34:00 Pickleball, anger, and accessing different parts of the self 35:00 Simple ways to incorporate photos, planners, and everyday memories 37:00 Why memory keeping does not have to be chronological 39:00 Vision boards, self-belief, and “what I desire is what I deserve” 42:00 Manifesting, higher power, and aligned action 47:00 Amy’s products, printables, stickers, and ways to get started creatively

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Sonia sits down with psychiatrist Dr. Daniel Hochman for a candid, nuanced conversation on addiction, recovery, and what actually works in the real world in this episode of Sisters in Sobriety. Daniel Hochman, is a board-certified psychiatrist and creator of Self Recovery, an online program helping people address substance and behavioral addictions through a science-based, psychologically informed approach that prioritizes privacy, agency, and emotional understanding.

The conversation explores the limits of traditional recovery models, including where 12-step programs can feel outdated or incomplete, and why concepts like “powerlessness” may actually undermine long-term change. Sonia and Dr. Hochman dig into questions around agency vs. external control, whether addiction is a disease or learned behavior, and how approaches like urge surfing, emotional regulation, and behavioral strategies fit into recovery. They also examine the role of medication like Antabuse and naltrexone, the rise of alternative recovery models, and how high-achieving individuals experience addiction differently.

Dr. Hochman reframes addiction as a response to “intolerable emotions,” highlighting how anxiety, dissatisfaction, and internal conflict can quietly drive addictive behaviors. He introduces a practical framework—moving from underlying distress to cravings to action—and explains how different “points of attack” can interrupt that cycle. 

As the conversation unfolds, Sonia shares her own experience navigating sobriety outside of traditional systems, including her curiosity about the 12 steps and her journey into emotional sobriety.

The episode shifts into a more personal exploration of identity—especially for high achievers whose self-worth is tied to performance—and what it looks like to rebuild a sense of self without alcohol. Through this lens, recovery becomes less about restriction and more about rediscovery, experimentation, and learning how to sit with discomfort rather than escape it.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Highlights

[00:00] Introduction to Dr. Daniel Hochman and Self Recovery [01:00] Why willpower isn’t enough in addiction recovery [02:00] What a psychiatrist actually does in addiction treatment [03:00] Early exposure to rehab systems and gaps in care [04:00] Problems within the addiction treatment industry [05:00] The role of untrained providers in recovery spaces [06:00] Sonia’s experience exploring the 12 steps [07:00] “Powerlessness” and the problem with vague frameworks [09:00] Locus of control and reclaiming agency in recovery [12:00] Why vague advice like “try harder” doesn’t work [14:00] What traditional recovery models get right—and wrong [16:00] Why addiction science hasn’t been fully integrated into AA [18:00] Addiction as a response to underlying emotional distress [20:00] Trauma, boredom, dissatisfaction, and hidden drivers [22:00] The “current” model: from pain to craving to action [24:00] Urge surfing and behavioral tools for early sobriety [26:00] Why deep emotional work shouldn’t come first [28:00] Limitations of CBT and surface-level therapy [30:00] Inside the Self Recovery program framework [33:00] Sobriety vs. moderation: choosing your own path [36:00] Medications in recovery: Antabuse vs. naltrexone [41:00] High achievers, identity, and addiction patterns [45:00] Rebuilding a sense of self beyond achievement [49:00] Rediscovering hobbies, curiosity, and joy in sobriety [51:00] One simple awareness practice to start changing behavior

Dr. Hochman's Links

Self Recovery's Website: https://www.selfrecovery.org/

Self Recovery's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/selfrecoveryhealth/

SIS Links

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Sonia sits down with Jeremy Lipkowitz to unpack addiction, dopamine, and the hidden patterns behind compulsive behaviors—from alcohol to everyday habits.

They dive into the questions most people avoid: What actually drives compulsive behavior? Why does dopamine keep us chasing more instead of feeling satisfied? How do perfectionism, shame, and high achievement intersect with addiction? And what happens when we swap one coping mechanism for another—alcohol for work, porn, social media, or even productivity? They also explore how habits quietly escalate and how identity becomes entangled in addiction.

Jeremy breaks down neuroplasticity and how repeated behaviors wire the brain, reinforcing cycles of craving and avoidance. He reframes dopamine as the chemical of wanting—not pleasure—and explains how this fuels the loop of desire. The conversation introduces tools like urge surfing, mindfulness, and creating space between stimulus and response, alongside a deeper look at emotional avoidance, shame, and the “hungry ghost” cycle of never feeling like enough. They also demystify meditation—what it actually is, and how to practice it without perfection.

The episode also traces Jeremy’s personal turning point—from a high-achieving student battling insecurity and compulsive behaviors to discovering meditation and a new definition of fulfillment. As Sonia reflects on her own patterns in real time, the conversation becomes a powerful example of what it looks like to pause, notice, and choose differently.

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TIME-STAMPED HIGHLIGHTS

00:00 – Introduction to Jeremy Lipkowitz and his work in addiction recovery 01:30 – Jeremy’s early struggles with insecurity and addiction 03:45 – Realizing the path he was on wasn’t leading to happiness 06:15 – Why success didn’t translate into fulfillment 08:00 – Neuroplasticity and how habits shape the brain 10:30 – Dopamine explained: wanting vs. liking 12:45 – How addiction escalates over time 14:30 – Addiction as emotional avoidance 16:10 – Why we struggle with boredom and discomfort 17:45 – Identity and shame in addiction 20:00 – Rationalizing harmful behaviors 21:30 – Addiction as a universal pattern 23:00 – The “dry drunk” concept and root causes 24:30 – Healthier vs. harmful coping mechanisms 26:00 – Recognizing subtle compulsions 28:15 – What urge surfing is 31:00 – Creating space before reacting 34:00 – Building mindfulness as a skill 37:00 – Meditation myths and perfectionism 41:30 – Different types of meditation 45:00 – Mindfulness in everyday life 49:00 – Perfectionism as addiction 52:00 – The “hungry ghost” mindset 55:30 – Sonia’s real-time habit awareness 58:30 – Learning to sit with boredom 01:02:00 – Why abstinence can help moderation 01:06:00 – How subtle habits take hold 01:09:00 – Finding freedom from external validation

Jeremy's Links

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Inflammation is at the root of so many modern health struggles—but what if the way we approach it is completely backwards? In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia sits down with Dr. Shivani Gupta—Ayurvedic practitioner, functional health expert, and author of The Inflammation Code—to explore a radically personalized approach to healing. Sonia guides listeners through how inflammation shows up in daily life, how stress and lifestyle habits quietly fuel it, and how Dr. Gupta’s “Elemental Design” framework helps decode each person’s unique health blueprint.

The conversation dives into how different body types respond to stress, food, and alcohol, and why a one-size-fits-all wellness plan often fails. Questions unfold around how mental inflammation contributes to physical disease, how gut health connects to energy and mood, and why sleep, circadian rhythm, and daily rituals may matter more than the latest health trend. The episode also explores the real impact of alcohol on gut permeability and inflammation, and how habits like late-night eating, blue light exposure, and chronic stress quietly disrupt the body’s natural healing processes.

Throughout the episode, Dr. Gupta introduces key concepts like chronic low-grade inflammation, bio-individuality, and the connection between the microbiome and overall health. She explains how ancient Ayurvedic principles align with modern science—from circadian rhythm optimization to the role of super spices like turmeric in reducing inflammation. The discussion weaves in practical insights on improving sleep hygiene, supporting the gut microbiome, managing cortisol, and using simple daily rituals—like tea, breathwork, or structured routines—to regulate the nervous system and reduce inflammation at its source.

As the conversation unfolds, Dr. Gupta shares her deeply personal journey—from growing up between Western medicine and Ayurvedic traditions to a turning point that led her to reject overmedication and seek root-cause healing. That experience sparked decades of study and ultimately shaped her mission to bring ancient healing wisdom into modern life in a practical, accessible way. The episode closes with a powerful reminder that healing doesn’t require perfection—it starts with small, intentional shifts that bring the body back into balance.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Shivani Gupta and The Inflammation Code 02:00 Growing up between Western medicine and Ayurveda 03:00 The breaking point with overmedication and antibiotics 04:30 Discovering Ayurveda and root-cause healing 06:00 Turmeric and the science behind super spices 08:00 What “Elemental Design” means for your health 10:00 Understanding Vata, Pitta, and Kapha body types 12:00 How different constitutions experience inflammation 14:00 Autoimmune conditions and personalized health patterns 17:00 Circadian rhythm and its role in inflammation 18:30 How sleep impacts detoxification and healing 20:00 Building a realistic sleep routine 22:00 Ideal sleep environment and temperature 23:30 Common mistakes with turmeric and anti-inflammatory diets 25:00 Chronic inflammation and modern lifestyle stressors 27:00 Supplements vs. whole foods: what actually works 31:00 What is “mental inflammation”? 33:00 Stress, burnout, and disease connection 35:00 Gut health, microbiome, and daily habits 37:00 Alcohol’s impact on gut health and inflammation 40:00 How different body types respond to alcohol 43:00 Tools for relaxation without alcohol 47:00 The most important first step: prioritizing sleep

Dr. Shivani's Links

www.shivanigupta.com IG: @dr.shivanigupta

SIS Links

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🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

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