Live Behind the Veil

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God does not intend our encounters with Him to remain isolated spiritual experiences that eventually fade away. Each time the Father reveals Himself, makes His presence known, or touches our spirit, He is opening another step in a continuing way of life. Ron shares about a deep awareness of the Father’s presence that began before his trip to Israel and continued throughout the journey. He describes the difference between simply knowing that we are in God’s presence and consciously living with an awareness of His presence. Rather than looking back and saying, “That was a wonderful experience,” we are called to contend for what God has given us and refuse to return to the place we were before. The Family explains that an experience with God becomes a deposit within our spirit. As we continue walking in it, that deposit is woven into our lives until it becomes part of our nature. The experience may appear to have an ending, but the work God began through it continues. Christ is not trying to make us outwardly religious or unnaturally spiritual. He is incorporating His life and nature into us in a way that becomes genuine and natural. We remain the unique people God created us to be, yet Christ increasingly expresses Himself through our words, choices, relationships, and everyday lives. This is a place of Kingdom rest. We cease striving to produce spirituality through our own effort and allow Christ to become our spirituality. Whether we feel something strongly or feel nothing at all, we trust that God is establishing His life within us. Experiences become stepping stones that lead us forward into the nature and life of Christ.Show Notes

• The difference between being in God’s presence and being aware of His presence
• Why encounters with God should become a continuing way of life
• Refusing to allow spiritual experiences to fade into memories
• Every experience with God leaves a deposit within our spirit
• How God’s nature becomes woven into our everyday lives
• Christ coming forth naturally rather than through religious behavior
• Remaining who God created us to be while expressing Christ
• Entering Kingdom rest and ceasing from our own spiritual effort
• Trusting God even when we do not feel anything spiritually
• Using past experiences as stepping stones instead of destinations
• Christ Himself becoming our wisdom, spirituality, and confidence
• Trusting the Father to direct our path

Key Quotes

• “There’s a difference between just being in His presence and being aware of His presence.”
• “That is not an experience. That’s another step that the Father has opened up for me to walk in continually.”
• “If you touch God, or He touches you, that’s a step that we need to put a pin in the ground and say, ‘I’m not going back from here.’”
• “The experience has a beginning, and then it becomes a deposit in your spirit.”
• “Pretty soon, it’s woven into our lives.”
• “God is incorporating Himself into us in such a way that everything must become natural.”
• “We are still us, and yet it’s Christ in us at the same time.”
• “Christ is our spirituality.”
• “The experiences become our stepping stones.”
• “Go where the Lord leads you and let God be an expression through you.”

Scriptural References

Colossians 1 (27) — Christ in You “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” God’s purpose is not merely to give us outward experiences but to reveal and establish the life of Christ within us. Galatians 2 (20) — Christ Living Through Us “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.” We remain the individuals God created, yet Christ increasingly becomes the source and expression of our lives. 2 Corinthians 3 (18) — Transformation Into His Image As we behold the Lord, we are progressively transformed into His image. What begins as an encounter with Him becomes an inward change of nature. Hebrews 4 (9–11) — Entering God’s Rest Kingdom rest comes as we cease from our own works and trust God to accomplish His purposes within and through us. 1 Corinthians 2 (16) — The Mind of Christ “We have the mind of Christ.” His thoughts, trust, and relationship with the Father are being formed within His people. Proverbs 3 (5–6) — Trusting the Lord “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding.” As we acknowledge Him, He directs our lives and establishes His nature within us. Psalm 139 (14) — Wonderfully Made Each person has been carefully and uniquely created by God. His nature does not erase our individuality; it fulfills His purpose through it. Philippians 2 (13) — God Working Within Us “It is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.” The spiritual life is not something we manufacture through human effort.Takeaway

Do not allow what God has revealed to you to become merely a memory of something that happened in the past. Receive every encounter with Him as a deposit and another step into a continuing way of life. You do not have to recreate an experience or struggle to appear spiritual. Rest in the Father, trust what He is establishing within you, and allow Christ to express His nature naturally through the person He created you to be. What began as an experience can become part of your nature as you continue walking forward with Him.

Summary

Show Notes

• God is raising and purifying a spiritual priesthood.
• Believers must guard their focus and avoid becoming spiritually consumed by world events.
• Christ has already won the battle; our calling is to walk in His victory.
• Priestly intercession reaches beyond personal needs and embraces all creation.
• Worshiping and praying in tongues allow the Holy Spirit to intercede beyond our natural understanding.
• Listening and waiting upon the Lord are essential parts of spiritual intercession.
• Everyone must begin where they are and trust the Holy Spirit to reveal the next step.
• Spiritual growth requires movement; believers should not become stagnant.
• Entering God’s presence is an act of faith rather than human effort.
• A single Scripture can become a daily focus for meditation, faith, and communion with God.
• Spiritual intensity does not require strain because believers are also entering God’s rest.
• Creation’s deliverance is connected to the sons of God becoming conformed to Christ’s image.
• Believers carry God’s presence into ordinary situations simply by knowing who they are in Christ.
• Faith declares that God’s Kingdom is coming forth in the earth—and within His people—now.

Quotes

• “God’s raising a priest. Our focus needs to be so much on reaching into Him.”
• “It’s already been won, so we walk in His victory as the channels of victory.”
• “We are to be the intercessors for all creation because we have to understand that’s where we live now.”
• “There’s a lot of waiting on the Lord, a lot of listening.”
• “At least be in motion. Don’t be stagnant.”
• “You position yourself in His presence by faith.”
• “Don’t make it this hard thing. The Holy Spirit leads us and guides us every single step.”
• “We can’t make this happen through human effort. It is to be that of the Spirit.”
• “Just know who you are, so that when you come into any situation, you’re aware that you’re bringing His presence into that situation.”
• “Our faith is now. What we declare is now. What we’re believing is now.”

Scriptural References

• 1Peter 2(5, 9)— Believers are being built together as a holy and royal priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices and proclaim God’s excellencies.
• Hebrews 9(11-14)— Christ entered God’s presence as the perfect High Priest through His own blood, securing eternal redemption.
• Colossians 3(1-2)— Believers are instructed to set their minds on the things above rather than becoming consumed by earthly distractions.
• Matthew 6(33)— Seeking God’s Kingdom first establishes the proper focus for every part of life.
• Romans 8(19-23)— Creation waits for the revealing of God’s sons and for deliverance from its slavery to corruption.
• Romans 8(26-27)— The Holy Spirit helps believers in their weakness and intercedes according to the will of God.
• Romans 8(29-30)— God has called His people to become conformed to the image of His Son, and His completed purpose includes their justification and glorification.
• 1Corinthians 14(2, 15)— Speaking and worshiping in the Spirit allow believers to communicate with God beyond their natural understanding.
• Zechariah 4(6)— God’s purposes are accomplished not through human strength or power, but by His Spirit.
• Hebrews 11(6)— Faith is essential to pleasing God and approaching Him with confidence.
• Hebrews 4(9-11)— God’s people are called to enter His rest, ceasing from fleshly striving while trusting His completed work.
• John 16(13)— The Holy Spirit guides believers into truth and reveals what the Father is speaking.
• 2Corinthians 5(7)— The life of the believer is governed by faith rather than by natural sight, circumstances, or feelings.

Takeaway

Summary

Show Notes

• Committing ourselves to a lifestyle of continual spiritual change.
• Opening the door of our hearts so the Lord can continue His creative work within us.
• Recognizing that we are God’s workmanship, created with a divine purpose.
• Becoming a prepared people who actively participate in what God is doing.
• Refusing to tolerate delay, distraction, and spiritual complacency.
• Listening for the Lord’s voice and responding immediately when He speaks.
• Speaking God’s Word in faith so that His purposes can be accomplished in the earth.
• Refusing to become trapped in religious routines or the distractions of the soul.
• Understanding that spiritual growth comes through receiving God’s nature.
• Experiencing the joy of the Lord as we wait upon Him and follow His direction.
• Finding relationships where believers can speak, strengthen, correct, and encourage one another.
• Trusting God to supply the faith needed to walk out the Word He gives us.

Quotes

• “Lord, we are committed to constant change.”
• “We’re His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works.”
• “We’re not just people that have been saved without a purpose. We’re saved with a purpose.”
• “We can’t tolerate delay any longer.”
• “Tolerating delay is like unbelief.”
• “Only acting on the Word of the Lord when it comes—immediately.”
• “In reality, we all hear the voice of the Lord if we’re listening.”
• “There’s nothing we have spoken about so far that doesn’t come with the joy of the Lord.”
• “Refuse to get bogged down in the soul life.”
• “Our growth is in Him imparting His nature to us.”
• “Everything we do in a relationship with God is an act of faith.”
• “Once you hear a Word from God, you step out on that Word by faith.”

Scriptural References

• Revelation 3 (20)— Christ stands at the door and knocks, inviting us to open our hearts and fellowship with Him.
• Ephesians 2 (10)— We are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to accomplish the good works He has prepared for us.
• Romans 8 (14)— Those who are led by the Spirit of God are recognized as the sons of God.
• Genesis 32 (26)— Jacob persistently holds on to the Lord, declaring that he will not let go until he receives a blessing.
• Nehemiah 8 (10)— The joy of the Lord is the strength that sustains us as we walk with Him.
• Ephesians 3 (20)— God is able to accomplish exceedingly and abundantly beyond everything we can ask or imagine.
• John 10 (27)— The Lord’s sheep hear His voice, know Him, and follow His leading.
• Romans 10 (17)— Faith comes through hearing the Word that God is speaking.
• James 1 (22)— We are called to act upon God’s Word rather than merely hearing it.
• II Corinthians 3 (18)— As we behold the Lord, we are continually changed into His likeness from glory to glory.

Takeaway

Summary

Show Notes

• Receiving salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit by faith
• Learning to walk by faith in every area of life
• Entering God’s rest through the presence of Christ
• Evidence of the Holy Spirit moving throughout the world
• Pentecost and the promised outpouring of the Spirit
• God’s love and His call to repentance
• Looking beyond temporary possessions and circumstances
• Developing an eternal perspective
• Salvation as the first step in a lifelong relationship with God
• The Holy Spirit putting the flesh to death and forming Christ within believers
• Learning to receive the Father’s daily direction
• God working in His sons, the Body of Christ, and creation
• Faith and trust as keys to participating in what God is doing

Quotes

• “I think we’re going to find that this next level that we’re reaching into right now is really an act of faith.” — Ken
• “Or just walking your daily life by faith. Every area.” — Ron
• “You reach out to God, he will meet you with his Holy Spirit.” — Dale
• “Wake up every morning, open your heart to Him. Ask Him, ‘What are we doing today, Father? You show me.’” — Dale
• “No, you just barely cracked the door open. You just barely started the first step into a walk with God.” — Ron
• “He’s pouring out His Spirit. And why is He doing that? Because He’s speeding up the process.” — Ron
• “We are the clay, He is the potter, and He is doing something in our lives.” — Ron
• “So what’s the trigger? What’s the key to make it happen? Our faith, our trust, the Holy Spirit, the second coming of it.” — Mike

Scriptural References

• John 3 (16)— God’s love and salvation through His Son.
• James 4 (8)— Drawing near to God.
• Hebrews 4 (1–11)— Entering God’s rest through faith.
• Joel 2 (28–29)— The promised outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
• Acts 2 (1–4), (16–18)— The Holy Spirit’s outpouring at Pentecost.
• 2 Peter 3 (9)— God’s desire for people to repent.
• Matthew 6 (19–21)— Choosing eternal treasure over earthly possessions.
• Romans 8 (13–14)— Putting the flesh to death and being led by the Spirit.
• Galatians 4 (19)— Christ being formed within believers.
• John 16 (13–15)— The Holy Spirit guiding believers into truth.
• Romans 8 (19–23)— God’s sons and the freedom of creation.
• Isaiah 64 (8)— God as the potter and His people as the clay.
• 2 Corinthians 3 (18)— Being transformed into Christ’s image.
• 2 Corinthians 4 (18)— Focusing on eternal rather than temporary things.

Takeaway

Summary

Show Notes

• Believers were created to express the living Word from within.
• God’s Word carries the power necessary to accomplish His purpose.
• A word aligned with Christ continues working beyond what the speaker can see.
• The Church is not primarily an institution; it is a people called and defined by God.
• Spiritual maturity requires attentiveness to God’s presence and learning to walk by the Spirit.
• Time in God’s presence produces rest and peace.
• The life of Christ can be communicated through ordinary conversation.
• Speaking God’s promises back to Him builds confidence and replaces inner striving.
• Believers are called to serve as watchmen who remember and proclaim God’s promises.
• God speaks through human vessels and through the many-membered Body of Christ.
• The results of a spoken word may remain unseen, but believers can trust God to continue His work.
• God’s Spirit can free people from rigid ideologies and open their hearts to truth.

Key Quotes

• “We are living stones raised up to speak a living word.” — Ken
• “Everything in that word that was spoken is contained in it.” — Ron
• “We are learning to walk in the Spirit.” — Debbie
• “I just be who I am in the Lord, and what’s in me emanates from me.” — Mike
• “He said it, and He’s gonna do it.” — Sherry
• “A word that God is speaking is being spoken through a human vessel.” — Dale
• “Speaking the word out in a conversational form…is the highest form of prophecy.” — Mike
• “What a privilege it is to live in this day where God is moving through the many-membered body.” — Ken

Scriptural References

• John 1 (1-4, 14)— Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh and the source of life.
• II Corinthians 3 (2-3)— Believers are living letters of Christ, written by the Spirit.
• I Peter 2 (4-5)— God’s people are living stones being built into a spiritual house.
• Isaiah 55 (10-11)— God’s Word does not return empty but accomplishes His purpose.
• Psalm 119 (89)— God’s Word is forever settled in heaven.
• Jeremiah 1 (12)— God watches over His Word to perform it.
• Hebrews 4 (12)— The Word of God is living, active, and penetrating.
• Mark 9 (38-40)— Jesus tells His disciples not to stop those working in His name.
• I Peter 2 (9)— God calls His people out of darkness to proclaim His excellencies.
• Romans 8 (14)— God’s children are led by His Spirit.
• Galatians 5 (25)— Those who live by the Spirit are called to walk by the Spirit.
• Hebrews 4 (9-11)— God’s people are invited to enter His rest.
• John 14 (27)— Jesus gives His people a peace unlike the world’s peace.
• Isaiah 62 (6-7)— Watchmen remind the Lord of His promises and seek their fulfillment.
• Ezekiel 3 (17)— God appoints a watchman to hear His Word and speak it.
• I Corinthians 14 (3)— Prophecy strengthens, encourages, and comforts others.
• I Peter 4 (10-11)— Those who speak should do so as people expressing the words of God.
• Romans 8 (19-22)— Creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God.
• Ephesians 1 (22-23)— The Church is Christ’s Body, filled with His presence.
• John 8 (31-32)— Truth brings freedom to those who receive and continue in it.

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