Balancing Public Life And Fatherhood With Councilman Kevin Riley

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Fatherhood is a journey laden with challenges triumphs and a multitude of rewarding experiences For some it means rewriting the scripts handed down by previous generations and breaking stereotypes Kevin Riley a father of three a Bronx councilman author and one of the founding members of The Dad Gang epitomizes this transformative journey In this week s Dads with Daughters podcast Kevin Riley shared his unique story shedding light on his mission to redefine Black fatherhood and support other fathers in similar pursuits The Crucial First Steps Overcoming Fear and Self-Doubt Fear as a Driving Force When Kevin Riley found out he was going to be a father to his first daughter Brooke fear struck him Having grown up without a father he was acutely aware of what he lacked in terms of role models and guidance Reflecting on those initial fears Riley shared I was scared but also excited because it was a journey I could pour so much value into His primary concern was whether he was parenting the right way Riley s transparency about his fears dismantles the myth of the all-knowing father It is okay to be scared okay to doubt what matters is the desire to overcome these fears and become the best dad possible Balancing Responsibilities The Art of Time Management Striking a Balance in a Busy Life Being a councilman often pulls Kevin Riley in different directions demanding a delicate balance between public responsibilities and family life I bring my children everywhere Riley explains From community events to City Hall hearings his children are often by his side learning the ropes of civic engagement early on This unique approach serves dual purposes it provides valuable bonding time and exposes his children to the concept of public service Riley s method underscores the importance of integrating children into various aspects of life making them active participants in their father s world Empowering Daughters The Challenge and the Reward Breaking Gender Norms Kevin Riley emphasized the importance of empowering his daughters to pursue any career they desire irrespective of societal expectations He makes it a point to connect his daughters with powerful female leaders to illustrate that they can achieve the same heights as their male counterparts In a male-dominated society you have to find creative ways to empower your daughters Riley says The lesson here is that fatherhood extends beyond basic caregiving it s about paving the way for your children to see themselves as capable and equal contributors to society Sharing the Journey Hop Into Life From Personal Experience to Published Author Riley s book Hopping Through Life co-authored with his children is a heartfelt narrative aimed at demystifying the complexities of fatherhood The inspiration stemmed from his own experiences and his nightly ritual of reading to his kids Be proud of the journey you ve been through because it created the person you are today Riley advises The book serves as a beacon for other fathers particularly those who may have grown up without a father figure It s a testament to overcoming obstacles and embracing the messy yet beautiful journey of parenting Community Building The Dad Gang Changing Stereotypes One Dad at a Time One of the most impactful initiatives Kevin Riley has been involved with is The Dad Gang Founded by Sean Williams this organization was borne out of a single comment that stereotyped Black fathers We created this community online but we really wanted to go deeper Riley explains The Dad Gang hosts events like the March of Dads which feature public walks and community activities aimed at showcasing the active involvement of Black fathers The group also organizes healing circles and interactive forums that provide emotional support and amplify the narratives of Black fatherhood Final Words The All-Important Advice Make Time Always As Kevin Riley beautifully puts it There s no amount of money that you can earn within your lifetime that would amount to the time you could spend with your children For dads feeling overwhelmed or questioning their readiness due to financial constraints Riley offers the essential advice to prioritize time with their children over everything else His advocacy for this critical aspect of fatherhood is both inspiring and actionable Through his roles as a councilman author and community leader Kevin Riley is not just rewriting his own narrative he s providing a new script for Black fatherhood challenging stereotypes and inspiring fathers everywhere to be the best they can be His story serves as a powerful reminder that fatherhood above all is a journey of love patience and unwavering commitment TRANSCRIPT Unedited transcript created with CASTMAGIC Dr Christopher Lewis 00 00 05 Welcome to dads with daughters In this show we spotlight dads resources and more to help you be the best dad you can be Dr Christopher Lewis 00 00 16 Welcome back to the Dads With Daughters podcast where we bring you guests to be active participants in your daughter s lives raising them to be strong independent women Really excited to have you back again this week This week as always I m on this journey with you You and I are going along this journey to be the best dads that we can be And the thing that I love is that you show up every week to be able to learn to grow to hear from other fathers hear from other people about the journeys that they ve been on and some of the resources that they ve been able to either create provide or just the experiences that they ve had that can give you some context give you some ideas about things that you can do to be able to better engage with your daughters or just be there and just be able to be the best dad that you can be and help them in the journey that they re on as they re moving into womanhood That s why every week I love being able to bring you different guests different people with different experiences that come to fatherhood just like you and I without a lot of resources without a lot of ideas because there s no one right way to father However we can learn from each other We can learn from so many others to be able to be that better father that we wanna be Dr Christopher Lewis 00 01 37 Today we got another great guest with us today Kevin Riley is a father of 3 He is a district 12 Bronx councilman and a soon to be published author and founding member of the dad gang And we re gonna be talking to him about his own journey about being a dad of 2 daughters and a son but also some of the we ll talk about his new book We ll talk about a little bit of a lot of things to be able to get some of his own perspectives So I m really excited to have him here Kevin thanks so much for being here today Kevin Riley 00 02 11 Thank you for having me Dr Lewis How are you doing today Dr Christopher Lewis 00 02 13 I really appreciate you being here And I always love starting this these interviews with an opportunity to turn the clock back in time I know you ve got 2 daughters You got a 9 and a 5 year old So I m gonna go back Maybe it s 10 years Maybe it s 9 years Never know Dr Christopher Lewis 00 02 28 But I wanna go back to the very beginning I wanna go back to that first moment that you found out that you re going to be a father to a daughter What was going through your head Kevin Riley 00 02 36 I was scared I think I was truly scared finding out that my at that time my fiance was pregnant She s my wife now Pregnant with our first daughter Brooke Really scared because at that time you know I didn t grow up with a father So as you stated before we re trying to learn fatherhood techniques we re trying to learn different tips we re trying to learn different situations that may you know come about within our children s lives from each other It s so important that we create these communities because at that time I didn t know I I was really truly scared but I did know that I wanted to be the best father possible Kevin Riley 00 03 09 I know that at minimal I knew I wanted to be the best father possible So I would say 10 years ago man when I find out or 9 years ago when I found out that Brooke was gonna be more I was scared but I was really excited too because it was a journey that I felt that I can give so much back and pour so much value Dr Christopher Lewis 00 03 24 back to school You just said that you were scared And I think a lot of dads are scared to step into fatherhood let alone being a father to a daughter And there s some fear that goes into that As you ve gone through these 9 years with your oldest daughter and your other kids as well what s been your biggest fear in being a father to a daughter Kevin Riley 00 03 46 I think my biggest fear and I m a be totally transparent with you making sure that I m parented the right way There s no manual into being a father There s no manual into being a dad There s no right way of doing things all the time and I think really there are times when even I m communicating with my daughter my daughter s trying to communicate with me or even show affection I mean I may be busy as you stated I m a I m a World council member so my job is very very busy a lot of the times So I won t be as available to my daughter as much as I will possibly wanna be available to her So you kinda get that fear of hey Am I doing this the right way Is my daughter going to find love outside of her father because she felt like she didn t get that male love from her father because he wasn t there for her as much as possible And then once I was able to kind of fight those different thoughts within myself I was able to apply what I wanted to be because I think it s the fear Kevin Riley 00 04 40 The fear always puts doubt within yourself Then if you really open your eyes I was always available at her doctor s appointments I was always going to her shows I was always showing up for everything for my children It puts that doubt aside because we have fear especially when you grow up and like I stated I grew up without a father So that fear of hey I didn t get the blueprint I don t know how a father is supposed to deal with this with their child I think after I got off that fear and that doubt I was able to be the best father that I m actually doing a really pretty good job Dr Christopher Lewis 00 05 10 That being a councilman you have a busy life and you re pulled in a lot of different directions Being an elected person in an elected office definitely is something that puts you into the limelight in many aspects People get to know you And sometimes your kids don t get that in regard to being that public figure in that way And they don t always understand that you have to be away to be able to build them the life that they are accustomed to So talk to me about that in regards to balance because I think that so many fathers have to try to balance their work life their or or professional life their personal life and trying to find what that perfect balance is to be able to show up and to be able to be in the lives of their kids the way that they wanna be How have you been able to do that Have you struggled with it What have you done to be able to get better at it Kevin Riley 00 06 10 Yeah I think I touched a little bit about that with the fear and the doubt but then you you mentioned something balance and time management I am a person that if you know me and the way I govern I bring my children everywhere So my children actually attend community events for me My children actually attend meetings for me I ll even bring my children to city hall at hearings sometimes because I think it s very important for them to see exactly what their father does and important for them to be civically engaged as well I m trying to teach civics to my children at a very very early age You do understand that within our country you know a lot of children don t get the accessibility or the access to learn about how government truly works Kevin Riley 00 06 46 So I get I think my children are seeing that on a day to day basis and they understand what their father is or what their father contributes to their community I do a lot of work with giving back to my community and my children realize that and they really appreciate that So I think time management is really important I have a luxury of bringing my children to work A lot of fathers don t have the luxury of bringing their children to work But even if you don t have the luxury of bringing your children to work I think time management is very important Even if you take a hour 2 hours that s why you go we came out with this book and we re writing this book and I know we re gonna touch on that a little bit later But just doing activity with your child reading to your children going out and playing with your children Kevin Riley 00 07 26 We can make time There s 24 hours in the day There s always time that you can make to engage with your children and I realized that with time management I may not have the opportunity to sit down and watch cartoons all day with my children But in the morning time when I m getting them ready for school engaging communicating with them and conversing with them in the evening time making sure that I shut my phone calls off at a certain period of time and I m able to sit down with my children you know watch a TV show catch up with them have some dinner with them things of that nature I think time management is crucial Dr Christopher Lewis 00 07 58 It truly is For your father Now one of the things that I wanted to go back to you were talking about fear and raising daughters And raising kids is not always easy There s ups There s downs There s every which way And sometimes days are good Dr Christopher Lewis 00 08 11 Sometimes they may not be So it can be difficult at times as well What s been the hardest part of being a father to a daughter Kevin Riley 00 08 18 I think the hardest part of being a father to a daughter is being able to empower them to do whatever they wanna do within their life Coming from a male and my wife does an amazing job with empowering our daughters But coming from their father as a man they see me doing a lot of amazing dope things and I don t want them to feel like only men can do this I try to empower them and I try to be equalizers to them and let them know like hey As I m doing this there s powerful leaders out there doing this as well so I think it s very important especially in my field I always try to connect my daughters to very powerful women leaders alongside with them Their mother has a very powerful position as well but other powerful leaders out there who are women and who are doing a lot of dope amazing things because I want them to feel like this is not male driven You know their father they see the dope things their father is doing all the time Kevin Riley 00 09 07 They see their father s always on television all the time but they also see the Bronx borough president who s the 1st black woman to hold that position She does amazing things and when we go to events they re able to connect with her on real time and they re able to talk to her ask her questions So I think that has been the challenge as a dad with raising daughters because I think in a male dominant society you really try to find creative ways to empower them and let them know that they could do the same thing that you could do even though it s a male dominant Dr Christopher Lewis 00 09 36 You mentioned that you ve got a new book coming out called Popping Through Life And I know that in that book you are trying to really remind families that family is not just about blood relations or focusing on what it means to focusing on what we may lack in our lives So I wanna go back to the beginning as you have created this story As as an author myself I know how much time effort passion have to go into the creation of these pieces that are being put out into the world What made you decide that you wanted to be an author and what made you decide that this was the topic for kids that you wanted to talk about Kevin Riley 00 10 15 I ve always been passionate about expressing my story to individuals Growing up my father and my mother migrated to America from Jamaica and unfortunately my father he was incarcerated when we were younger and I used to always visit him when he was in the criminal justice system And that s why I thought I was actually going So that s why when my daughter was born in 2015 and now me being a council member you can see that was a total different change you know in direction in life and I believe my father did the best that he possibly could We have a great relationship today You know we stay connected as much as possible and I really strongly feel that the storyline came from me expressing where the challenges that I grew up with where that came through and it s really much just hopping through life like getting through getting by I feel a lot of us feel like we re just getting by through life a lot of times and once I have my daughter in 2015 and I m learning then I have my other daughter in 2019 and then my son came in 2022 it s like I learned different things at with each child and I m hopping through this thing we call parent look It s something that I do with my children every single night as I read to my children Kevin Riley 00 11 22 Something in World and and throughout the nation we re trying to promote literacy to our children so I think it s crucially and truly important as parents that you read to your children as much as possible and have your children read back to you as much as possible But as we were reading these stories and every time I m reading the story I m always reading the author and the illustration illustrator out to the story And my daughter said one day like hey dad would love if one day we could tell our story And when she said that I m like wow That really struck me because as a council member I m always verbal I m always giving speeches about my story but I ve never written my story down and I wanted to write it in a sense where a father who has experienced the same things that I ve experienced growing up and their their journey of fatherhood and them kind of hopping they can actually read the story to their children so their children could actually understand as well like hey your father s not perfect Your father there wasn t a machine that was created It was just dad Kevin Riley 00 12 16 Here s a dad Here s a mom Your father has been through stuff Your father has trauma in their life Your father is healing Your father is learning different things and they are just getting through life the same way that you re getting through life as a child Our child learned to crawl then walk then then then read then then go to school on their own They learn different things and you continue to learn Kevin Riley 00 12 36 Learning doesn t stop when you graduate school Learning continues throughout life so I think that s where the journey of the book came from It it s about me telling my story but also about me giving a platform for fathers who experience things like me There s a lot of tons of fathers out there who didn t have a father figure in their life and they re going into this journey of fatherhood They can actually read a story to their children that could kind of outline that And we utilize character of a bunny because bunnies are really popular with children Bugs Bunny Bunnies are really really popular with children as an animal and they re energized Bunnies are really energized and that s what we feel like fathers should be in their children s lives Kevin Riley 00 13 13 They should be their children s Energizer Bunny They should energize their children to make sure that they re going out and being the best of their ability So that s where the book and the journey of the book came from and I m really excited that we re releasing it on September 6th on National Reader Book Day Dr Christopher Lewis 00 13 27 So you re telling your story and you re sharing that with the masses What are you hoping that people are going to take from reading this for themselves and reading to their children Kevin Riley 00 13 39 Be proud of the journey that you ve been through because the journey that you ve been through created the person that you are today and we shouldn t always shun away from it I know sometimes people are kind of embarrassed of their upbringing They re embarrassed of the trauma that they experience through their life but I think they should kind of look at the good out of that because it made them into a very resilient person It made them into a very strong person that s able to conquer any challenges that they may embark on you know moving forward And hopping through life really engages and showcases that even though you may have had trauma throughout your life you could still be a great dad Even though you may not had a father when you were younger you could still be a great dad And also to be sympathetic you don t know what your father went through Your father had a father Kevin Riley 00 14 23 Your father s father had a father There has been lineage of fatherhood that s been happening throughout generations and there s no manual I think a lot of times when we think of parents we always circle and and focus on mothers all the time but fathers are as important as mothers as well I think fathers don t know that I know in World I passed a resolution that made June in World fatherhood recognition month because we want to recognize fathers throughout the entire month of June But not only do that the whole goal is to create centers for fathers We partner with organizations like the Real Dads Network I have an organization that I know I m gonna we re gonna talk about soon the dad gang but we really want to create these fatherhood centers that provide resources for fathers to really flourish that will help fathers find jobs help fathers connect with their children emotionally Kevin Riley 00 15 11 I think fathers even men we ve been taught to be really really masculine at times and not really be really comprehensive really understand our feelings really be emotionally connected to our emotional feelings so we can emotionally connect with our children and understand that So I think that s why I want people to get from this book I want people to really understand that hey even though you did have a journey that brought you to this day you should embrace it and you should really know that it made you into the strong resilient person that you are in today s society Dr Christopher Lewis 00 15 44 Now you talked about the organization that you are a part of and that you founded called Dad Gang Talk to me about Dad Gang why you decided to start it what its goals are and what you re hoping that people are going to take away from being a part of it Kevin Riley 00 16 00 So when you talk about fatherhood one negative aspect and negative stereotype about fatherhood is black fathers aren t involved in their children s lives So when we started the Dag Gang the Dag Gang Sean Williams who s the founder of the Dag Gang who s our fraternity brother Kappa Alpha Paternity Incorporated He started the Dag Gang in 2015 when he had his second daughter and he was in the supermarket with his child and a white woman had said to him I m glad you stuck around It s good that you stuck around And he was really offended by that comment but he s like I know tons of fathers out there that are involved in their children s lives So we first we got together and at that time that s when social media really started picking up You had Instagram you had Twitter you had all these different platforms that people are really looking at people lives on a device So we want to put out as much positive imagery and visions of black fatherhood Kevin Riley 00 16 53 We didn t realize we are creating a community of black fathers that were coming to this page seeing all the dope black fathers out there connecting with those fathers because we would add put their username there connecting with them because they were from their city and towns and really building this market that hey You might have a father like I have at that time my daughter at the time between 2015 and 2018 she just turned 3 at that time I could connect with a brother who has a 10 year old So they have a 10 year old daughter So I know between 3 10 year old what are certain things I should be doing certain things I should be saying certain things I should not be doing It creates this kinda community so we created this community online but we really want to go a little bit deeper So we started to do events where we organize and mobilize in different states and we do something called the March of Dads So it started off with calling strolling with the homies but we changed the name to the March of Dads because we wanted to go to landmarks in different places Kevin Riley 00 17 46 So for instance we went to in World we go to Prospect In World we just did the Bronx Children s Museum In Atlanta we did Ponce City Market In DC we marched by the White House and we wanted to go to landmarks and showcase and you just see a whole bunch of Black fathers fathers of color walking together with strollers carry ons older children grandfathers fathers You just see that image and it showcases to you that black fathers are really engaged But not only do we do that we host a bunch of conversations and talks So we do healing circles where we call it the dad house where we have fathers just fathers just speaking Because sometimes we feel like there s no place for us to just speak and just express how we feel Kevin Riley 00 18 28 As men I go back to the masculinity We re always taught that we re not supposed to show emotions We re supposed to figure things out just kinda go through life and just figure things out Be tough about things and that continues to just break us down And then we get to a point where we break down and that healing process is so challenging I read a book called Battle Cry by Jason Wilson Amazing book where he talked about that that we focus so much on the masculinity part about manhood which is important but we need to also talk about emotions and the comprehensive part about being the man as well So the dad game we really formulated this organization to be a a nest a safe haven for fathers of color out there to showcase that we are present Kevin Riley 00 19 10 We do tons of different other activities We hand out strollers diapers things of that nature in different parts of the city and the the nation We re in different parts We do stuff in LA DC Atlanta where we re branching out to different parts as well but it s really organization Tap in It s the dadgang com or you can follow us on the dad gang on any platform Dr Christopher Lewis 00 19 32 I love the concept I love the idea As a global organization it is definitely something that s needed to be able to as you kind of were talking about in the sense of redefining fatherhood and redefining black fatherhood or or the masses and to show that what the founder heard in the grocery store is not accurate and it is definitely not something that should be perpetuated So I appreciate all the work that the organization s doing to engage dads in so many ways There are so many opportunities for dads to be able to come together This is one great way to be able to do that And I encourage people to check out The Dad Gang at the dad gang com to be able to learn more about their events their activities and how you can get involved as well Now we always finish our interviews with what I like to call our fatherhood 5 where I ask you 5 more questions to delve deeper into you as a dad Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 27 Are you ready In one word what is fatherhood Kevin Riley 00 20 30 Love Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 31 When was a time that you finally felt like you succeeded at being a father to a daughter Kevin Riley 00 20 36 The completion of Hop Into LifeBook Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 38 If I was to talk to your kids how would they describe you as a dad Kevin Riley 00 20 41 Mister Clean Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 44 What about 10 years from now What do you want them to say Kevin Riley 00 20 46 My dad is my best friend Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 48 Who inspires you to be a better dad Kevin Riley 00 20 49 My children Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 50 Now you ve given a lot of piece of advice today things that you ve learned along the way As we finish up today what s one piece of advice you d want to give to every dad Kevin Riley 00 20 58 Make time to be with your children There s no amount of money that you can earn within your lifetime that would amount to the amount of time you could spend with your children I talk to a ton of people out there who are interested in becoming a father and they and they always say to me like hey I just think I m not financially ready yet Yes having a child can be very expensive but in the same sense it s more expensive when you re not spending time with your children Because the time that you re missing with your children is something you can never make up So I always give the advice to every dad out there make time to be around your children whether if it s an hour a day whatever the time is just make time so you could truly just connect with them and so you can just see how dope you are and just really showcase your love that you have for them If the Hop Into LifeBook could order it on hopindolifebook com It s going to be an amazing amazing series because there s gonna be some more books that s gonna come out after and I m really really proud of my children who are co authors of this book Brook Kate and Caleb Riley And I would just advise you just find that activity that you could do with your kids together Kevin Riley 00 22 03 It will really really make you guys closer and really make them be able to express their creative juices to you as well Dr Christopher Lewis 00 22 09 Well Kevin I just want to say thank you Thank you for doing what you re doing to be able to be active in your own kids lives but also what you re doing to be able to engage with other dads to be able to push them to be that engaged father that they want to be as well And I wish you all the best Kevin Riley 00 22 27 Thank you doctor Lewis Thank you for having me Dr Christopher Lewis 00 22 28 If you ve enjoyed today s episode of the Dads with Daughters podcast we invite you to check out the fatherhood insider The fatherhood insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be We know that no child comes with an instruction manual and most dads are figuring it out as they go along and the fatherhood insider is full of resources and information that will up your game on fatherhood Through our extensive course library interactive forum step by step road maps and more you will engage and learn with 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