Parenting With Grace: Dan Rose’s Approach To Raising Daughters

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In a special episode of the Dads with Daughters podcast guest Daniel M Rose joins host Christopher Lewis for a heartfelt conversation about the beautiful and sometimes challenging journey of fatherhood As fathers to daughters they share their wisdom and personal experiences offering valuable insights on building strong independent relationships with their children This episode is a reminder that fatherhood is an ongoing journey of growth grace and understanding The Initial Fear and Ongoing Love Dan Rose vulnerably shares his initial fears and uncertainties when he found out he would be a father to a daughter Like many fathers he worried about being overprotective or not doing a good enough job in raising his daughter This honest admission resonates with many dads highlighting the common fear of not being able to provide and protect our children adequately However as Dan and Dr Lewis attest this fear is often replaced by a love that grows and evolves throughout the different stages of a daughter s life The Unique Bond and Shared Activities As the conversation unfolds Dan Rose emphasizes the special bond and shared activities between him and his daughter It s heartwarming to hear how despite initial differences they found common ground through shared interests in pop culture and TV shows particularly during the challenging time of the lockdown in March 2020 This emphasizes the importance of staying open-minded adaptable and finding ways to connect with our children especially during difficult circumstances Teaching Gratitude and Building Foundation A significant takeaway from this conversation is the importance of teaching gratitude and being thankful for what children have from a young age Dan acknowledges that building a foundation of gratitude in childhood allows for more freedom and less overreaction in parenting during middle and high school years This essential parenting aspect reminds us of the significant impact that instilling values of appreciation and mindfulness can have on a daughter s development Responding with Grace and Vulnerability Dan s emphasis on responding to his children with grace understanding and vulnerability rather than judgment or discipline is a vital aspect of nurturing strong father-daughter relationships This echo from Dr Christopher Lewis aligns with the podcast s focus on embracing grace and vulnerability in fatherhood It s a reminder that by being open empathetic and willing to embrace our vulnerabilities as fathers we can foster trust openness and resilience in our daughters Initiating Honest Conversations and Building Trust The importance of treating daughters with respect and initiating honest conversations to strengthen the relationship cannot be understated Dan encourages fathers to respond with love listen and learn from their daughters fostering a relationship built on trust respect and understanding This highlights the significance of creating an environment where daughters feel heard valued and supported Moreover it emphasizes the role of fathers in providing a safe space for open honest conversations with their daughters Conclusion In this deeply insightful and emotionally resonant episode Dan Rose and Dr Christopher Lewis remind us that fatherhood is a journey of grace gratitude and vulnerability By embracing these qualities and nurturing open loving relationships with our daughters we can empower them to grow into strong resilient individuals This episode serves as a powerful testament to the enduring bond between fathers and daughters and the profound impact of intentional empathetic parenting In this episode Dan Rose s vulnerability and Dr Christopher Lewis s thoughtful insights offer an invaluable roadmap to fathers everywhere on the profound and transformative journey of raising daughters Through these conversations we can glean wisdom and solidarity that enriches our own journeys as fathers TRANSCRIPT Dr Christopher Lewis 00 00 05 Welcome to Dads With daughters In this show we spotlight dads resources and more to help you be the best dad you can be Dr Christopher Lewis 00 00 16 Welcome back to the dads with daughters podcast where we bring you guests to be active participants in your daughters lives raising them to be strong independent women The Really excited to have you back again this week Every week I love being able to sit down with you and talk with you about the journey that you re on and really the Go on this journey with you because as you know I ve got 2 daughters myself and you never stop parenting You never stop being a father the And you re gonna continue to learn because the different phases of life that your kids are in are gonna push you in many different ways ways that you the Right now are probably not even expecting or if you are older and have kids that are older you may be looking back and saying oh I wish I would have known The And you could give some good advice too But I love being able to to sit down talk to you have you listen every week because Doug It is a journey and it is something that we all can work on to become better at to just like anything that we do And by being able to listen to others to learn from others and be open to being vulnerable in many different ways and being open to learning and trying new things you will be able to be that engaged dad that you wanna be Dr Christopher Lewis 00 01 37 This week we got another great guest with us today Dan Rose is with us and Dan is a father of 2 He s got both a son and a daughter We re gonna be talking about his Dog His experience as a dad of daughters He is a pastor of a network of house churches and works to Bring his ministry all over Southeast Michigan and works with a number of different communities as well Dog So I m really excited to have him here Dr Christopher Lewis 00 02 04 I ve known him for many years and I m really excited to be able to talk with him today Dan thanks so much for being here today Dan Rose 00 02 10 I am glad to be here man Dr Christopher Lewis 00 02 12 I m excited to have you here as well And one of the first things that I always do and love to do is turn the Doc Back in time And you ve got 2 kids now that are grown and flown They are older now and out of the house and doing their next the The thing is they are preparing for their journey into adulthood When you think back to the very beginning and you go back to that first moment that first moment when you found out that you were going to be a the Father to a daughter Dan Rose 00 02 39 What was going through your head Abject fear That was was the first thing To be our son was born first and I grew up with the 2 younger brothers and so figuring out how to be a dad to a son seemed pretty straightforward And when we found out we were having a daughter That was scary And and yet it was also kind of the sense of just what an honor That it was gonna be to raise a daughter and thinking about what it would mean to be a daddy as opposed to just a dad And Shortly after Libby was born Amy was working with college Amy my wife was working with with college students and She wanted me to to write a little thing for these girls in her bible study about what does it mean to raise a daughter to be a girl dad which wasn t a phrase at the time So for me it was the this this idea of of being a daddy and being being someone who would be able to take strength and the Give it to my daughter so that as she moved out in this world that she would be as strong as my son and be able to hold her own because boy this world is it s just hard and it s particularly hard I think for women Dr Christopher Lewis 00 03 49 Now you kind of touched on this just a little bit but you also said that When you found out that you were going to be a father to a daughter you were scared there was fear What would you say was or is your biggest fear in raising a daughter Dan Rose 00 04 01 I think one of my biggest Fears was being too protective was overprotecting her making her dependent on me in such a way that She felt like she was gonna have to go through this world needing a man or something along those lines But then kind of the the the alternative of doing such a a the Poor job that she would not like men at all or that she would be not trusting of men or would fear men or would just have some sort of the Irrational relationship towards men So kind of a double edged sword there on the fear thing Too much and too little Trying to figure out how do you stand on that razor s edge Dr Christopher Lewis 00 04 41 The Now as I said your daughter now is older and she has gone off to college and doing some different things The And I guess as she went through those phases in her own development as you went through those phases the Throughout her development and you think back to the fear that you said that you did have how does that look different now that she left the house and gone to that next the phase of her life Dan Rose 00 05 08 Yeah So she just finished her 3rd semester at Michigan State And so for anyone that s not living under a rock Last year they at Michigan State had a campus shooter and knew people who were shot and killed and her friends knew people It was one of those things you never think you d experience And so now that and there was no way to protect her because she was an hour and 20 minutes from my house I couldn t go rescue her And Watching her handle a situation that none of us know how we re going to respond and watching her face that with courage with a strength that I don t know if I would have And then to see her move forward from that situation as the semester continued on and Dog Dan Rose 00 05 55 As she is continuing to grow to see her just continue to press on with a tenacity and a strength that comes from a the Deep deep place And so as we walked through that whole thing with her last year it became very clear that she was ready to take this world And she was strong and resilient and has everything you need to succeed So it has been fun It s really been fun to see her to see her just Thrive now in light of of everything that s been going on Dr Christopher Lewis 00 06 25 It s so exciting to hear that And you know I went through a similar thing this fall the When there was a shooter on the campus where my daughter is a freshman and luckily she did not know the 1 person that was the Shot and killed but it still impacts and you have to deal with that And for us you know she s over 11 hours away So as you said you can t rescue I definitely could not easily rescue and she didn t need the rescuing either She dealt with it in her own way and the Showed her resilience in that way and I think all the students did And but it s hard It s hard to take that step back the Take that and and know that they re on their own and you wanna just hold them and be there for them Dr Christopher Lewis 00 07 14 And I think the The only thing that we could do at the time was make sure she knew that and make sure that she knew that we were there for her and the Go from there and support her in any way that we could Now one of the things that I am kind of interested in is that you know you have 2 children that are different They re different ages They have different interests They re doing different things and you build those unique bonds the With your children to be able to be engaged with them in many different ways What is the favorite thing that you and your daughter like the or do that you share together Dan Rose 00 07 51 We struggled for a minute When she was younger we didn t have a lot of things in common She is a girly girl And one of my favorite stories about her is we were helping my mom was a teacher and we were helping her do the annual move into your classroom bit And so we re carrying things up the To the classroom and Libby is taking a stuffed animal a singular book My mom says to her she was probably the 4 at the time And so my mom says Libby you can carry more than that Libby put her hands on her hips and she said mom These arms are made for strapless dresses not for carrying things So it s like okay Dan Rose 00 08 30 She did the dance thing She she lived in a world that I did not understand at all and quite honestly a world that my wife didn t understand either And so So fast forward to March 2020 and the whole world shuts down And it was It was transformational in our in our relationship She was a sophomore in high school and then her and I all of a sudden Started spending every day together all the time together and we have discovered that we enjoy the same Similar TV shows We enjoy a lot of the kind kind of pop culture stuff So her and I like we bond over pop the culture and over kinda knowing who s who out in the Hollywood world and that kind of thing And you know my wife and my son are just the clueless about it Dan Rose 00 09 21 They re like they have no idea what s going on So Libby and I have these inside jokes We can just and we laugh at Ethan and Amy all the time The And and so are there are few people in this world that I enjoy bantering with more than than my daughter And her sense of comedic timing is just perfect The She might be the funniest person that I know And so honestly it s just spending quantity time with her because the more time We spend the more the conversation spirals and gets hilarious and and things just get more fun in every single conversation Dr Christopher Lewis 00 09 56 The I love that And you probably know way more than I do when it comes to some of the pop culture stuff Dan Rose 00 10 02 I have to Dr Christopher Lewis 00 10 02 Well and that s just it is that I think that as a father you the have to be willing to have some grace and know that you that your kids are not gonna always like the The things that you like they re not going always going to do the same things that you re going to do You re gonna connect with your kids in different ways And the I know that you and I were talking before we started about the importance of grace And when when I know that when you talk about Grace in parenting It s not the same as grace in religion So why don t you give me a definition When you re talking about grace in parenting why the Has Grace been so important for you as a parent But first let s define it and then talk to me about how you have Incorporated that into the raising of your kids Dan Rose 00 10 51 It s funny If we were having this conversation 10 years ago 15 years ago my answer to What is the definition of grace and parenting would be different than it is now Now really once we kinda hit the middle school years Doubt Was when this definition changed and kinda locked in for me I would define grace in parenting as maintaining access the Doing what is necessary to maintain access because it s it s at that time when they re 11 12 13 when they re pushing boundaries when they re they re testing They re trying to figure out okay We ve had these rules as as little kids and now we re we re not quite adults Everything in their world is changing Their friends are changing Dan Rose 00 11 32 Their bodies are changing Their emotions are changing Everything Dog And so now they start pushing and testing and they re and they re separating themselves from us as mom and dad which is healthy and good And I see so Doug Many folks during that time lose access to their kids because their kids break a rule or are disobedient or you know they no longer are just trying to make mom and dad happy They re trying to figure out what does their world look like the And how are they going to move through this world And and so all of a sudden now it s I had to ground little Sally Bell Dan Rose 00 12 11 For 2 weeks wouldn t let her see her friends for 2 weeks took her phone away all of these things And so if someone was treating me like that what am I gonna do I m not gonna give them the anymore I m gonna shut them out And so when they got into that middle school man it became all about how do I how do we as mom and dad maintain our So that when when those important conversations need to be had when those hard relationship things that are going on in middle school and high school the are happening that they re coming to talk to us and not going to another 12 year old or a 13 year old with all of their vast wisdom Dan Rose 00 12 50 I know 12 13 year olds have all the answers and know all the things but maybe maybe we know a little bit more And so and so we wanted to do everything we could the to maintain access Now how did that look Oftentimes that looked like us making a mistake and then the Apologizing to them for that mistake when we overreacted It was very rarely that we underreacted We pretty much always overreacted as parents And so when we realized that we had overreacted we would the Come in and apologize And we would own our mistake as a as a parent in our overreaction and we didn t do so in a way that the Still spun it back on them Like we left because sure our overreaction was probably almost always because they didn t do something right but it still didn t Require the overreaction that we gave Dan Rose 00 13 41 And so when we would go in and and apologize and ask forgiveness for overreaction we wouldn t tie it to their behavior at all Dog We owned our own behavior and simply asked for forgiveness of our own behavior in the way that we would want other people to come to us We began to treat them as more and more as equals And so now as a result we have our son is the He s 22 Libby s 20 and our family chats and our texts are they re brutally honest and brutally open and they hide nothing from us They ve never hidden As far as we know there s just there s not a lot that they hide from us Dan Rose 00 14 19 And I think about all of the things that we hid from our parents Our kids haven t seemed to do that and I think it s because we really sought to do whatever it took to maintain access in their lives So we defaulted a lot to yes Can I go to so and so s house to spend yes Can so and so come to our house and spend the night Yes We didn t use grounding as a punishment and we didn t use taking away their ability to the Connect with others as a form of punishment because we thought that is just critical to our lives as people We tried to dive in and figure out doc In those situations what what was really going on And a lot of that was grounded when they were 4 5 6 7 years old And so By the time they got to be 13 14 15 those lessons had been learned Dan Rose 00 15 03 And so like for instance I think both our kids have had situations where they wanted a particular the thing Right Some toy And we didn t have a lot of money when they were younger and so we it would cost us to get them this particular toy or this the that they wanted and then they would respond in the way that 3 4 5 6 year olds would often respond to not having a lot of gratitude And so instead of Losing our stuff we would just take that toy back put it up on the shelf and say hey When you re grateful for this thing that you have you can have it back And it would take some time but they learned that Right It was that deeper issue It wasn t that they re necessarily being disobedient Dan Rose 00 15 40 They needed to learn gratitude They needed to learn To be thankful for the things that they have And so that one little lesson then translated out to when they were in middle school and high school no And we didn t we didn t seem to have those same kinds of a lot of issues where we had to overreact or overparent too much because of things that have Things we had learned in the past allowed us to really be gracious in middle school and high school So there was kind of this process of building a foundation when they re younger Which then allowed us to to grant a lot of freedom when they were when they were older Dr Christopher Lewis 00 16 11 I love hearing that and I think that every person needs to hear the that especially if you re a young dad and you can start making those changes now Now if a father has not been doing that And they ve got kids that are coming into their teenage years and they have defaulted to no And they have not the Built that relationship that has been conducive for access to their kids and their kids may be hiding things or or other Things that you ve been able to avoid Are there things that you would recommend to dads that the See that in themselves see that in the relationship that they have with their own kids that they could start to make intentional changes that would help Doc To build a stronger relationship with their kids in the long run Dan Rose 00 17 04 I think the first step would be to identify how the How would I want somebody to open that conversation with me If there s somebody in my life who has kinda defaulted to know or doesn t trust me or doesn t hasn t dealt graciously with me and they ve Dog They want to change how they relate to me How do I want them to approach that subject What would it take for somebody to change that the in relationship to me And then turn that around and say okay Well I guess this is how I need to begin to move towards move towards my daughter is the I m gonna start because I guess it s as fundamental as this I m gonna start treating her the way that I wanna be treated and taking some intentional time To go out grab a grab a mocha frappuccino or a you know whatever the latest TikTok Starbucks fancy drink is And going and sitting down and having an honest conversation you would just be shocked at how our kids will respond to honest open Real talk To sit down and say I know this is kinda the way it s been I don t like the way that I ve been doing things Dan Rose 00 18 02 I m Trying to figure this parenting thing out too And I need us to talk through some of this stuff How can I be better How can we then move together as a dad and a daughter towards the More openness towards more honesty You will be shocked but then the kicker is you gotta back it up When She comes home and tells you a story and it makes you uncomfortable because she s doing something that you did in high school or that you did in middle school That you re like my kid s never gonna do that And yet here she is doing that You get to decide how are you gonna respond Are you gonna respond in judgment Are you gonna respond with discipline or are you gonna respond by saying by listening and by extending grace the And by thinking about your response to it and just slowing down a minute and saying alright how am I gonna respond when she tells me this thing that I don t wanna hear And and kinda having a plan in your head of maybe it s something like or you say oh thanks for sharing that with me Dan Rose 00 18 58 Doug I appreciate you you opening up Right And and then that s it And and then maybe you look for other opportunities Doc To have conversations about that in a way that s not gonna be a judgmental thing a way that s not gonna slam the door on that access Because if if they come and they bring something to us and and we immediately slam the door on them that access is gonna get shut down real quick again Doc Couple of the phrases especially now that my kids are older that I m learning to say that I ve been intentional about trying to say is the How can I help you How can I help you Or do you want my advice or do you just want me to listen And now the door s open to them Dan Rose 00 19 37 Now they re giving me the insight the And all of a sudden I look like a superhero because I m just doing the very thing that they want me to do and I don t have to figure it out So those things work I think doc Can work well even even you know middle school and high school with kids in that age that again opening seeking to open the door and giving them some room doc To direct it a little bit so that it s a give and take relationship It s a both and We have to make that shift from one up one down relationships to relationships of mutuality with our with our daughters and that s hard It s it s it s really really hard Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 08 It is hard It it is definitely not something that is always the something that you would innately think that you would do And I think it is a mind shift and something that you have to be willing the To as I said at the very beginning be vulnerable And sometimes with men let s be honest that word is a triggering word Dan Rose 00 20 30 That s right My palm started sweating just as you said that v word Dr Christopher Lewis 00 20 32 And it it s not a bad thing though Be vulnerable being willing to the Say I don t know or be willing to just sit and be in the moment and explaining Where you re at is important and it shows a human side to you that especially as your kids young they don t always see Every child seem for the most part every child tends to see their parent as a hero as the person that they the Just love innately And as long as you love them back you re gonna continue to have that love But then there is gonna be that point that Dan you just talked about that your kids start pushing back And That grace is so important that you are willing to be in the moment be there be the Open honest and real with them I can t say that I m I ve always been the best example of that I try my best And I try to admit when I m failing as well and I could do better Dr Christopher Lewis 00 21 44 And I ll be honest about that but I think that the All of us can be better and it s so easy to try and solve their problems It s the So easy to get back in jump right back into that mindset of I m gonna come and rescue you And Especially for our daughters for the most part that s not always what they want And asking the question Dan that you said of do you just need me to listen is important because so often the the women that are in our lives whether it be our daughters Our spouses friends men tend to try to solve They try they jump in and they Don t always listen very well but you re gonna come out ahead so much further ahead if you re willing to the Shut your mouth and just listen and then respond Again I m not always the best at that My spouse would tell you that From day 1 that I m not always the best at that but I do try And I fail and I try again Dr Christopher Lewis 00 22 54 And I the fail and I try again and that s what you have to do when you are a parent as well We definitely have to keep being teachable and the And learning and growing and that s what this podcast is all about is being willing to be vulnerable being willing to know that you don t know everything the There s not one right way to parent There s not one right way to father and there s not one the playbook that you can pick up and say this is the this is what I have to do Because as you just heard the way that Dan Fathers is different than the way that I father is different than the way that you father And and that s okay but we can take pieces the of what each of us do and learn from each other You can build a relationship with that dad next door the And start to listen and learn from what they re doing and say I like that Don t really like that but pick the things that you do like And start incorporating them Try some new things just like Dan was talking about Dan Rose 00 23 56 Tell you what man I think one of the ways I learned some of this grace thing was in conversation with my father-in-law the raised 4 daughters After his 3rd daughter was born he went to the bar So we were talking as my kids were probably late elementary school and the He s from Southern Indiana and he says Diane let me tell you something And we sat and talked about parenting And one of the things he said was You gotta give them enough rope when they re in middle school and high school to just about hang themselves but not so much that you can t pull them back Doc And he s like you want them to learn the lessons when they re still under your roof when you can still put your arm around them when you can still pick them up when they fall Dan Rose 00 24 40 And that was some of the best parenting advice that I ve ever received because it opened up so much freedom Like I no longer Had to be a perfect dad and my kids didn t have to look perfect They could go and make mistakes And then I could pick them up and we can brush them off and we can help them figure it out so much better that they the Figure out and make their mistakes when they re in junior high and high school than when they re in college 11 hours away or 2 hours away Because it s a lot harder to pick them up and brush them off when they re out there And when you re over 18 your mistakes are they re way more costly So when you make mistakes when you re 13 14 15 and you got somebody there who can help pick you up and brush you off It s just it s just such a such a better way And that bit of advice from my father-in-law was was huge for those very reasons Dr Christopher Lewis 00 25 37 Now Dan we always finish our interviews with what I like to call our fatherhood five where we delve a little bit deeper into you as a dad Are you ready Dan Rose 00 25 44 I m ready Dr Christopher Lewis 00 25 45 In one word what is fatherhood Dan Rose 00 25 46 Joy Dr Christopher Lewis 00 25 47 When was the time that you finally felt like you succeeded at being a father to a daughter Dan Rose 00 25 52 When She put a professor in his place this semester at Michigan State Dr Christopher Lewis 00 25 57 You gotta tell me more about that one Dan Rose 00 25 59 To me this is like Doc She s gonna be just fine She s a public relations major And because that s you know kinda more on the business side of things everything That they do is group work it seems like And so Libby wants to get good grades Libby is very conscious about wanting to the Just wanting to be successful and succeed And so she kinda took this 1st group project all on her own and she s like you guys aren t getting it done The I m gonna get this thing done Dan Rose 00 26 29 So she rocks out this group project with minimal help from her group turns it in gets the grade back and they only got an 80 And she was mad So she flips to the back looks at the comments And in the comments the professor writes you missed the Like 5 different things in your group assignment that you just didn t do And so she marched up there after class and walked him through and showed him where All 5 of those things were at in the paper and said they re here here here and here so fix it And he scratched out the 80 and gave him a 90 And I was like this girl she don t need me anymore She just put this dude in his place and she advocates for self She takes no crap from anybody And so that I was like alright We hit a home run She s on her way Dr Christopher Lewis 00 27 18 I love that Now If I was to talk to your kids how would they describe you as a dad Dan Rose 00 27 22 Well I hope they would describe me as loving as the Herring as somebody who always has their back no matter what We told both of them Dog I ve told both of them numerous times when they re getting ready especially they re getting ready to walk into a hard situation You got this You can do this but just know that I m the cavalry If you need me I ve got your back And so I I hope that s how they would describe me I think that s how they would Dr Christopher Lewis 00 27 52 Now who inspires you to be a better dad Dan Rose 00 27 54 I think my father-in-law I really my father-in-law I think is he he s not perfect The Talk to my mother-in-law for 5 minutes and you ll find out that my father-in-law is not perfect But we just celebrated his 80th birthday and listening And one of the things that we did was Dog All of his grandkids spoke about the impact he s had on their lives All 4 of his daughters spoke about the impact the that he s had on their lives And man if my kids and my grandkids will speak of me the way that they spoke of the of my father-in-law Dan Rose 00 28 25 And I know from talking to my brothers in laws the way that we ve the 4 of us feel about him That s dad goals in a big big way In so many ways when I grow up I wanna be my father-in-law Again not perfect but boy he loves fiercely and really and he embodies what a I think what a good dad really looks like Dr Christopher Lewis 00 28 43 Now you ve given a lot of piece of advice today As we finish up what s 1 piece of advice you d wanna give to every dad Dan Rose 00 28 47 If you re gonna on the side of love The So often once the door is closed once the relationship is broken it is so hard to get it back So if you re gonna make an error error by loving too much by granting too much grace If we on the side of love the odds are we re gonna get it right more times than not I tell the people I pastor Tell my kids Tell anybody that listens I don t think we re gonna stand before god or the divine or whatever at the end of our lives and and they re gonna say you know what You love too much Dog Dan Rose 00 29 18 You just loved too much That is never gonna be our problem So if I m gonna if I m gonna make a mistake if you as a dad are gonna or make a mistake make it on the side of love Making on the side of loving them too deeply too much with too much love That s the error If that s the thing that at the end you know my kids are sitting in counseling and because dog They re gonna everybody s gonna need it So when they re sitting there they re like you know my dad just loved it too much Dan Rose 00 29 42 I ll take it He didn t have enough rules I ll take it That s my piece of advice to every parent It s just air on the side of love Dr Christopher Lewis 00 29 48 Well I appreciate you sharing that Dan and I appreciate your time today Now if people wanna find out more about you the And what you re doing is there a great place for them to go Dan Rose 00 29 57 Yeah So I try to write pretty regularly and they can see my longest the form stuff at danielmrose com And then I write some shorter things that are only about 250 the 300 words and I do that mostly daily ish at the kjd net the knee jerk devotional net So those are 2 places but they can find me on just about any social network known to mankind My username everywhere is Daniel m Rose All one word So Twitter X at DanielmRose Facebook at Daniel M Rose Mastodon which is where I live most of my days now because It s nice So is that Daniel M Rose at writing exchange Instagram at Daniel M Rose You can find me at Daniel M Rose When in doubt at Daniel M Rose So Dr Christopher Lewis 00 30 47 And we ll put links in the notes today Dan thanks so much for joining us today for sharing your journey in being a father and I wish you all the best Dan Rose 00 30 57 Hey Thanks Christopher It was good chatting Dr Christopher Lewis 00 30 58 The fatherhood insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be The We know that no child comes with an instruction manual and most dads are figuring it out as they go along And the fatherhood 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